Our Calfee Journal

Update #10: May 26, 2008

Wheels, Rims, & Unexpected Consequences: Debbie's Calfee

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And then there were three... Calfee bikes that is.

Foreground: A 48cm 'au natural' Calfee Luna Pro for Debbie is added to the family livery. We're now All Calfee - All the Time.

FLASHBACK

Dateline: January 12th

 First Impressions: Rather than sharing my comments, let me share Debbie's... as they truly conveyed the first impressions:

"I had no idea I would notice that big of a difference."

"That's the best ride I've ever had... on any bike"

"What other tandem? This is the only one I want to ride"

"I know what my next single bike will be"

"It just felt lighter, faster, and easier to ride"

"Tell me more about that beautiful-looking bamboo tandem"

Looking back on Debbie's initial impressions from our first rides on our Tetra Tandem, it was always a question of "when" not "if" Debbie would end up with her own Calfee.

It took several months of monitoring Ebay and other on-line resources but an unfinished (nude) 48cm Calfee Luna Pro frameset with a new Alpha Q fork finally came up for sale at a reasonable price. My '98 Erickson single bike became the parts donor as it no longer sees much use and is now stored in an upstairs closet along with a '98 Bianchi Mega XL TdF replica frameset.

As for her first impressions compared to her Ritchey? As you'd expect, "I can't believe how much a difference there is! Thank you, thank you, thank you!" And this gem, "I braced myself for the really bad bumps going across the bridges and they were hardly noticable. I was amazed and I feel great now instead of beat up like I usually do after my ride." So, the Ritchey will be relegated to stationary training duties and Debbie is otherwise thrilled with her new Calfees: tandem and solo.

Anyway, what does any of this have to do with our Calfee tandem? Well, as you'll recall the test bed for our Calfee tandem was a second hand (maybe even third hand) Calfee Tetra Pro I acquired as a way of gaining some first hand experience with a Calfee carbon frameset before jumping into a Tetra tandem. The acquisition of the Custom Tetra tandem is prima fascia evidence of the very positive impression I was left with after going back and forth on my benchmark for the 'perfect bike" -- the recently retired Erickson Signature -- my Dean Castanza, and the Tetra Pro. Up and until we took delivery of the Calfee tandem, Debbie politely listened to my attempts to describe the differences in how the Tetra Pro handled and felt vs. the Erickson but remained skeptical there could be that much difference. Well, her first ride on the Tetra tandem clearly make a lasting impression. Moreover, after spending weekends enjoying her new found comfort on the back of the Calfee tandem, her beloved Ritchey Road Logic just wasn't rockin' her world. The only solution was to complete the Calfee collection by acquiring one for Debbie.

So, yes, we have been very impressed by our Calfee ownership experience. Thankfully, through the magic of eBay, we have been able to ease some of the pain associated with our Calfee Family Plan.

So, what's new in the wacky world of wheels?

In yet another retrospective on previous Journal entries you may recall from Update #6 I had something of an issue with the cited weight of Velocity USA's Deep-V rims.

As you can see at right, this Deep-V rim weighs in at 577 grams, which is consistent with two other spares I have here at the house. Back in March I sent a note to Velocity USA to mention the Deep-V rim weights listed on their Web site seemed a bit on the low side @ 520 grams compared to the last five that I'd purchased which weigh in at 577 grams.

The Velocity rep stated he'd pulled a silver anodized Deep-V rim off the shelf and weighed it to be 522 grams. He went on to note the anodized and machined rims would have different weights than, say, powder coated and non-machined rims, and that the number of spoke holes also factored into the rim's weight. However, to establish the catalog weight they randomly pulled a number of different Deep-V rims to come up with the average weight they based their catalog numbers against. The latter was interesting, but it seemed to defy logic in the face of my three (3) 577 gram Deep-Vs with their anodized with machined sidewalls still falling well off the "average".

I did a little more poking around while waiting with fingers crossed that a new wheelset to be built using new Deep-Vs would in fact come in closer to the cited 520 grams. Based on my inquiries I found at least one other tandem enthusiast on the Hobbes list had just recently purchased a pair of silver Deep-V rims with 24h spoking where the rims weigh 525 grams and 530 grams, respectively.

Well, the new wheels and spare rim finally made their way to my garage on May 26 and low-and-behold, the spare rim was EXACTLY 520 grams !!! As you can imagine I was both elated and surprised: elated with the 2,050 gram weight of the White Industries / Velocity Deep-V tandem wheelset but surprised at how much variability there was between my older Velocity Deep-Vs and the new one.

No matter, just good to see the rim weight being right where it should be. I'll need to send a follow-up to the gentleman at Velocity to close the loop on my earlier conundrum. Oh, and there is a bit more breathing room around the disc rotor and left chain stay with the new wheels: that too is a welcome feature. More to follow as soon as I can wean myself off of our Topolino wheelset. Speaking of which...

Topolino vs. Rolfs Update:

We've been putting most of our tandem miles on the Topolino wheelset while waiting for our conventional daily use wheels to be finished. I must say, I've grown quite fond of the Topolino wheels. Although the name Topolino was chosen quite literally because it is synonymous with 'Mickey Mouse' , the AX 3.0-Ts are anything but.

We used the Topolinos on the first two days of the '08 Georgia Tandem Rally down in Albany, GA. On the first day we did have one issue with the front wheel pertaining to a persistent noise that happened on each and every revolution of the wheel. Having experienced a similar noise on our Mavic CXP30 deep section rims back in '98, I recalled the source was just a little too much room around the very long valve stem allowing the valve to move around. Before heading out on Day 2 of GTR I removed the tire and tube and wrapped the valve stem with a single layer of electrician's tape before reinserting it in the rim. No noise on Day 2 or since then on rides from the house.

For Day 3 we fitted our now stealthy and decal-less '07 Rolf Prima Vigor Tandem wheelset. Far more predictable than the '08 Rolf Prima Vigor wheeleset they replaced, the '07 Rolfs felt right at home on the flat, non-technical terrain around Albany. As for any major change in performance due to their low drag design, the jury is still out. Again, they seem to roll quite nicely, but we've just not been able to quantify any net improvement in our performance vs the Topolino wheelset.

Now, having also used the Rolfs a bit more here around our home in North Georgia where we have some technical riding conditions I have found even the '07 Rolfs lack some of the stability and control afforded by the Topolino wheelset once the terrain becomes technical. The '07 Rolf wheels corner predictably and seem to track fairly well; however, they just don't inspire the level of confidence I find with conventionally spoked 36h wheels or even the Topolino wheelset.

Therefore, at least for now, I've somewhat concluded the Rolfs will be pressed into use primarily for rides that will be on fairly flat and straight terrain, whereas the Topolino wheels will be used for moderate climbing and technical rides. Serious mountain rides will call for our conventional wheelset with the disc rotor added for good measure.

Squawks, squeaks, and creaks:

Unfortunately, I still find myself on the hunt for a persistent and annoying 'creaking' sound that seems to be coming from my front cranks / bottom bracket / eccentric / or pedals. Well, actually, it's really more of a clicking sound.

By process of elimination and swapping out various parts, the list of suspects continues to narrow. My earlier conclusion that it was possibly caused by a bad interface between a set of daVinci cranks designed to work with JIS standard bottom bracket square tapers that were at one point fitted to a pair of ISO standard bottom brackets no longer seems to be feasible.

Update: By Update #11 we had discoveed that Calfee implemented a design change for their eccentric that would allow for the use of a Bushnell eccentric. Calfee was able to retrofit the new standard into our tandem. Some of the noises that we were chasing seemed to disappear with that change and with those noises gone a 'clicking' sound that I had attributed to the daVinci cranks turned out to be coming from the lower front S&S coupling. A generous application of teflon grease and re-torquing the front coupler vanquished that last noise. It's now smooth and quiet sailing on the Calfee.

Instead, my attention is presently focused on the interface between the Speedplay Frog's threaded axle and the threads on the daVinci cranks. The titanium Frog pedal axles seem to have a loose fit and it could be there is just enough play between the pedal axle and crank arm to allow the joint to move & and create a clicking sound on every revolution of the left and right cranks.

As a quick check of this theory, yesterday afternoon I swapped out a spare set of stainless steel Speedplay Frogs that also seemed to generate the same noise as the titanium frogs for a pair of my Campagnolo Pro Fit pedals. While we didn't have enough day light remaining to go for an extended ride to proof the fix, I was able to do some up and down the street rides with maximum braking applied to the rear wheel to load up the pedal/crank interface. With the Campy pedals there was no discernible noise: oh what a relief that was. With this in mind, I reinstalled the Speedplay Frogs using several wraps of yellow Teflon pipe tape to firm up the interface and the clicking seemed to be gone on a subsequent test ride up and down our street. Again, fingers crossed -- this will hopefully be 'the fix' that puts this particular disconcerting noise behind us.

Update: See previous note for root cause.

Now, less anyone get the idea that I'm completely rationale, this persistent noise has had me ready to 'ditch' the Calfee a number of times: it's just that frustrating. So, in the event you too have been driven to the edge by an annoying sound coming from your tandems, know that you're hardly alone. Moreover, the more you spend on your tandem the greater the angst you direct toward your pride and joy when things aren't as they should be.

 

Eccentricity:

Well, I think I'm truly at-one with our eccentric. There have been some moments, to include a recent bottom bracket with a completely frozen fixing cup. I'm not sure what happened. The plan was to take the bottom bracket and cranks from the Erickson -- which I know were as quiet as a church mouse -- and install them on the Calfee as a way of isolating those components from the suspect list for the aforementioned drive train noise. I can change a bottom bracket with my eyes closed, so I didn't give it a second thought when I swapped out the Phil Wood Ti BB for a Shimano UN72. No Loctite and a little grease was all that I used when installing the fixing and adjusting cups as the fit was pretty good. After riding the tandem twice and finding that the clicking sounds still hadn't been vanquished by the change, I opted to switch the components back. Well son-of-a-gun, that right fixing cup wasn't' coming out.

Without going into all of the gory details, thankfully the fixing cup did not block access to the eccentric's set screws so even with the bottom bracket firmly stuck in the right half of the eccentric, the entire eccentric could still be removed from the frame so we weren't quite at DefCon 1. Instead, looking ahead to what it would likely take to extract the stuck cup, I decided to order a spare eccentric and bolts "just in case" the original didn't come out of the procedure in fully serviceable condition.

A Email to Craig at Calfee had a new eccentric on the way the very next day and a few days later it arrived. However, much to my amazement, it was the wrong size?! In fact, it was a full 3mm larger in diameter which, coincidentally, was the same size as two spare Bushnell eccentrics I had sitting at the house. I called Craig back and he confirmed they had just recently changed the size of their eccentric shell and eccentrics to be compatible with the Bushnell eccentric and they had apparently sent me one of the newer and larger diameter eccentrics. The correct size eccentric was popped into the mail the very next day and it arrived today, May 27th. I immediately removed the crippled Shimano UN72 and eccentric 'assembly' and installed the new Calfee eccentric and my front crank's Phil Wood BB with nary an issue. Well, OK, I still need to install a half-link in the timing chain to get the eccentric in a neutral position, but that's it for those nits.

The original eccentric with it's stuck Shimano UN72 fixing cup went into a 4" bench vice and after a lengthy bath of flame from a torch and a little help from a 10" breaker bar attached to a heavy-duty Shimano BB socket, the fixing cup finally broke free. The eccentric and Shimano UN72 BB are both doing fine following the procedure and will live to be used again.

Update: See Update #11 in August for a description of the eccentric retrofit that permitted the use of a Bushnell eccentric which was more to my liking and the Calfee has been 'perfect' ever since.

What Else?

Not much else, actually. The Calfee Tetra tandem is GREAT! In fact, we'll probably hop back on the Erickson as soon as I solve the creaky crank / pedal issue just to get rebaselined on how different the Calfee is from the Erickson.

As noted right up front in this update, our enjoyment of the Calfee frames has now led to the addition of a 3rd Calfee for Debbie and we're pretty sure that was also a good change. Debbie didn't actually start riding her own single road bike until right around 2000 after we had an on-bike disagreement about pedal cadence. Yep, I'm still paying for that one (figuratively and literally).

Finally, a good friend from Indiana who goes by the nom de plume 'counselguy' recently sent along a photo he took of us at the Tandems East Expo back in late Mach. We had just returned from riding the self-guided 17 mile loop ride around Elmer, New Jersey with Beryl Brodsky & Tom Fritz of Virginia when much to our surprise John pulled up in the parking lot.

So, here we are circa March 2008: Grandparents X3 with our seventh tandem standing along side our '06 black Toyota Tundra SR5 double cab 'tandem hauler.'

What struck me about this photo was how rare it was to see just us in a photo with our tandem and without helmets. In fact, it reminded me of one taken nearly 11 years ago just before heading off for our first-ever organized ride on the tandem.

And, here it is... Mark & Debbie circa August '97: With our youngest still in high school, riding our first tandem -- a '96 Santana Arriva -- and standing along side our '89 black Toyota SR5 Extra cab tandem hauler. Funny how some things simply evolve instead really changing.

Seriously though, while we've changed some hardware and matured a bit over the past decade, our love for each other has only continued to grow. Sharing our time together on the tandem has played a very large part in our history with each other. Moreover, we are both looking forward to many, many more years of enjoying each others company on the back of our bicycles built for two.


Summary & Overview: Purpose of the Journal, long-term ownership update & Journal navigation
 
Update #1: January 3, 2008: Our Calfee Tetra Tandem Arrives: Background on why I selected a Calfee and what makes our frame unique.
 
Update #2: January 12, 2008: Build 99% Complete... And The First Ride: First impressions on the build-up and ride qualities as well as a description of the initial components, the weight, cost, and some other thoughts.
 
Update #3: February 10, 2008: First 30 days & 250 miles: Dealing with a new type of eccentric, trying to resolve some handling issues and working around an RF interference issue with my stoker's wireless computer.
 
Update #4: February 24, 2008: First 45 days & 300 miles: Back-to-back riding comparisons with our Erickson steel tandem and first impressions of low-spoke count / paired-spoke racing wheels.
 
Update #5: March 2, 2008: Ever Wonder How Much Influence Wheels and Tires Have On Your Tandem's Performance? Our first chance to ride the Calfee with conventional wheels solves the early handling issues.
 
Update #6: March 16, 2008: As The Wheels Turn.... And Other Weighty Issues: A little more on wheel comparisons, disc brake rotor clearance, and some final thoughts on our experience with low-spoke count / paired-spoke racing wheels.
 
Update #7: March 30, 2008: And Now For Something Completely Different: Tandems East's '08 Tandem Expo: Meeting Craig Calfee for the first time along with several other industry representatives and enthusiasts while attending one of the few tandem expos held here in the US.
 
Update #8: April 19, 2008: It's the Little Things.... And Some New Wheels: A few tweaks, some different water bottle cages, and yet another wheel set: these babies are keepers.
 
Update #9: May 11, 2008: Back In Black... And More On Wheels: The Calfee takes on a more stealthy look, an update on the Topolino's and a new set of old wheels: Rolfs Part Deux.
 
Update #10: May 27, 2008: Wheels, Rims, & Unexpected Consequences: Debbie's Calfee: We are so impressed with the Calfee tandem that a 3rd Calfee bike is added to the family livery, plus updates on wheels, creaks, and a short photo retrospective on US: 2008 compared to 1997.
 
Update #11: August 12, 2008: The Perfect Ride & The Penultimate Update: After about 8 months and a couple thousand miles of fine tuning, our Calfee Tetra Tandem is Perfect. This update includes a summary of the final adjustments made since May and will likely be the last update before our final, year-in-review over Christmas.
 
Update #12: March 28, 2009: The Final Entry: This is it, the last installment. A final summary of our impressions and thoughts on uber-light / performance tandems, our Calfee and some additional details on disc brake installation, touring gear and a final installment on our flirtation with exotic wheelsets.
 
Final Wheel / Tandem Configurations & Build Sheet With Cost & Weight Data


 

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