Our Calfee Journal

Update #5: March 2, 2008

Ever Wonder How Much Influence Wheels and Tires Have On Your Tandem's Performance?

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STOP THE PRESSES!!!


Today we finally logged the first 30 miles on our Calfee using a conventionally-built, lightweight 36° wheel set.

They literally transformed our Calfee's handling to the extent that it was like we were riding a completely different and vastly improved tandem compared to the on which we'd logged the previous 330 miles.

This is significant because, if you read my previous updates, I was clearly ambivalent about certain aspects of the Calfee's handling and was merely assuming it was something I'd adapt to. This was clearly not the case and it would be fair to say that today's ride on the different wheel set truly allowed our Calfee's inherent stability and exceptional cornering performance to shine through for the first time since we've taken possession.

Therefore, with regard to the comparisons I've made to the handling and stiffness between our Calfee and benchmark Ericksons in previous updates? You can pretty much disregard all of that at this point.

That whippy feeling, slight understeer on hard corners, and sense that the rear triangle was flexing a bit? Fogettaboutit.

All of these issues were resolved today by making one very simple change: new wheels.

Summary: One of the things I decided to do with this new tandem was to experiment with a set of low-spoke count racing wheels, noting that I've heretofore never been a fan, but really had no first hand experience to draw on.

To make this an apples to apples comparison I opted to use a lightweight conventionally built wheel set using Velocity's Fusion rim instead of my personal favorite (and 20% heavier) Deep-V.

The first 330 miles that we put on the Calfee ended up being on the low-spoke count racing wheels instead of the conventional wheels as originally intended due to a timing issue. Therefore, the combination of a set of the low spoke count racing wheels and the Calfee frame formed the basis of those first 330 miles of observations and comparisons... the ones I just discovered are no longer valid.

Let's Recap: Just to make sure the record and previous updates are all put back in perspective, let me pull forward a few of my earlier observations regarding the handling:

Jan 12:
"While there is definitely a little bit of a tail wag.... I suspect it's coming from the rear chain stays and not the main frame tubes or seat stays. Then again, it could very well be the wheels. Once we have our 36° Fusion wheel set we'll be able to sort that out. The steering will take a bit of getting used to."

"Although it's hard to imagine a tandem with what is essentially the same steering trail as a Co-Motion Supremo or Robusta running an Alpha Q fork feeling sluggish, that's how the Calfee initially felt compared to our Ericksons."


Feb 10:
"I'm still trying to get acclimated to the different steering geometry. While it's a blessing for 99% of our ride time, it's that 1% when we're bombing down the mountain roads or diving through corners that I'm still trying to come to grips with. The confidence [the Erickson] inspired in the corners was something I've taken for granted."

"As I mentioned before, I wasn't sure if the handling differences were being driven solely by the change in steering trail or, perhaps, by the low spoke count racing wheels. I'd hoped to address that with our second set of conventionally built daily-use / travel wheels... [For] a partial test**, today's ride used the conventionally built 36° front wheel (White Ind. MI5 hub with Velocity Fusion rim) instead of the the low spoke count racing wheels and the difference wasn't all that significant. The aforementioned 'wag' or stoker lag that I initally detected is still there"

**As noted, back on February 10th I did a partial test ride where I replaced the the front low spoke count racing wheel with the 36° conventional one and noted only a marginal improvement. At that point I wrongly assumed that if the front was on par with the conventional wheel, the rear was likely as well and turned my attention away from the wheels and back to the frame. Therefore, given the dramatic difference that I experienced today when running both the front & rear 36° conventional wheel set, I'm now inclined to conclude the rear wheel is the weak link given the influence that removing it from the equation had on the tandem's handling, stability, and steering.

Feb 24
"As already suggested, the Calfee is easier to steer in a straight line but doesn't always seem to corner as fast as the Erickson. However, instead of feeling normal, after putting 300 miles on the Calfee the Erickson (fitted with the low spoke count racing wheels ) now felt a bit skittish at times. . In many of the other tighter corners and curves I had to pay more attention to arresting the turn and lean angle with more aggressive steering inputs making for some less than smooth exits (no style points today)."

"Today's ride on the Erickson has caused me to revise one of my earlier assessments: the Calfee does exhibit some tail wag that's not in evidence on the Erickson. It only shows up when Debbie's reaching down for her water bottle, adjusting herself on the saddle, or when she decides to really put in a big effort on her own. Also as noted in the first ride report, we can torque the rear triangle by standing and coasting on downhills with our weight standing on either the right or left side pedals in the 6 o'clock position. Therefore, given the Calfee has less steering trail than the Erickson and the robust nature of the main frame, I'm inclined to believe it's the rear triangle that's a bit less robust than what we're accustomed to."

That Was Then, This Is Now: Every one of the issues that I experienced during the first 330 miles with the Calfee was "fixed" today by simply changing out the low spoke count racing wheels for a set of conventionally built wheels. As already noted, it was as if we were riding a completely different and vastly improved tandem compared to the one we rode just yesterday.

More specifically, the improved handling and cornering was immediately apparent with the first tight corner: and the grin that finally returned to my face got bigger with every hard corner or fast curve. I was also something of a 'Chatty Cathy' as I related my newfound excitement for the handling and steering that our Calfee was now exhibiting to Debbie.

Debbie also made mention that she could tell I had my confidence back after 'nailing' that off-camber and slightly uphill, sharp right-hand turn and could also tell that the tandem's path through the corners and curves was much more precise, smooth, and reminiscent of what she enjoyed on the Ericksons. All of the 'tail-wag' is also gone. I'm not even sure if Debbie ever took a drink of water today. In fact, we were easily able to do short track stands at intersections while waiting for traffic to clear... something that was routine on the Erickson that proved illusive on the Calfee up and until yesterday. Therefore, all of my previous concern over the robustness and stiffness of the frame or rear triangle is now gone.

There was also one other performance enhancement that came with the change to the conventional wheels: an even more comfortable, smoother, controlled ride especially over the rough stuff at the bottom of fast descents with the ubiquitous small bridges over the creeks that run through these draws.

As you can tell, I'm still giddy with joy over the transformation of our Calfee: it was a very different tandem from the one we rode yesterday and all of the differences were positive in a HUGE way. I would go so far to say that the overall handling and cornering performance of the Calfee is now as good as or better than our Erickson. In short, I finally feel the way I expected to feel back on January 12th when we took that first ride: exhuberant!!

So, What's This Mean? Perhaps nothing beyond satisfying my own curiosity regarding how these different types of wheels would perform, and the profound impact that they can have on how a tandem handles.

I would clearly state that this is not an indictment of the low spoke count racing wheels. While I have articulated some concerns regarding how they influenced the handling and my initial impressions regarding our Calfee's handling, I would note that the low spoke count racing wheels do seem to roll more easily / have less aero drag than the conventional wheel set. Now, I'm not sure I can quantify that perception as we're not nearly consistent enough nor are our training loops conducive to doing that type of a performance comparison. However, there definitely is a "lighter feel" to the low spoke count racing wheels s that goes beyond their weight as the conventional wheels we had built to support this comparison only weighed ~150 grams more than the 1,830 gram low spoke count racing wheels. In fact, had I not specified a disc hub and, instead, used a left-hand threaded tandem hub the difference in weight would have been completely negligible.

I think the only thing I need to add at this juncture is that it's too soon to tell if my experience with this particular set of low-spoke count wheels is representative or perhaps an anomaly. The spoke tension numbers for both the front and rear wheels have been sent back to my dealer who is comparing notes with the manufacturer. It may very well be that this set of wheels is out of spec. and, if so, reworking them may resolve the matter... which would be just fine with me. I have not heard nor read anything else on this forum that suggests others have had this type of experience so it does strike me as unusual.

Therefore, to those riding low spoke count racing wheels today... by all means keep on enjoying them. For those in the market, do your homework. My observations and conclusions are just that: my own. I'm what I'd characterize as overly sensitive to handling and what strikes me as something significant or noticable, may be in the noise level for many other teams.

Final Thoughts: Today was very significant for me, as I'm sure it was obvious that I was a bit conflicting with regard to the handling of our new Calfee tandem and why it was so different - and not in a good way from my perspective -- from our benchmark Erickson.

However, as I sit here reflecting on the day and recording my thoughts on the laptop in our family room while watching the end of today's NASCAR race, I am now "at one" with the new Calfee and can, without any caveats , truly say that it has exceeded ALL of my expectations. That may or may not have clearly been the case before today.

The take-away for this little experiment to those who have taken the time to follow our progress with the new tandem is that a tandem is only as good or as bad as the sum of its parts and your expectations for how those things should all come together and perform. Racing wheels, heavy-touring wheels, different size tires running at different PSI, and the like will all influence comfort, stability, steering, and your overall satisfaction with a given tandem frame. The extent of that influence -- and the perceived performance of a tandem -- can be far more significant than you might realize.

I've been open and candid with my experiences on this tandem because I felt it might be of benefit to others who go down this path, e.g., things aren't always perfect and solving issues is about realizing where you may have made mistakes (bottom bracket spindle lengths), learning new things (eccentric nuances), finding the root cause of performance issues (handling & stability) and addressing them in the right order.

Rest assured (or fair warning), this isn't the final chapter of our saga... more to follow.

 


Update #1: January 3, 2008: Our Calfee Tetra Tandem Arrives: Background on why I selected a Calfee and what makes our frame unique.
 
Update #2: January 12, 2008: Build 99% Complete... And The First Ride: First impressions on the build-up and ride qualities as well as a description of the initial components, the weight, cost, and some other thoughts.
 
Update #3: February 10, 200: First 30 days & 250 miles: Dealing with a new type of eccentric, trying to resolve some handling issues and working around an RF interference issue with my stoker's wireless computer.
 
Update #4: February 24, 2008: First 45 days & 300 miles: Back-to-back riding comparisons with our Erickson steel tandem and first impressions of low-spoke count / paired-spoke racing wheels.
 
Update #5: March 2, 2008: Ever Wonder How Much Influence Wheels and Tires Have On Your Tandem's Performance? Our first chance to ride the Calfee with conventional wheels solves the early handling issues.
 
Update #6: March 16, 2008: As The Wheels Turn.... And Other Weighty Issues: A little more on wheel comparisons, disc brake rotor clearance, and some final thoughts on our experience with low-spoke count / paired-spoke racing wheels.
 
Update #7: March 30, 2008: And Now For Something Completely Different: Tandems East's '08 Tandem Expo: Meeting Craig Calfee for the first time along with several other industry representatives and enthusiasts while attending one of the few tandem expos held here in the US.
 
Update #8: April 19, 2008: It's the Little Things.... And Some New Wheels: A few tweaks, some different water bottle cages, and yet another wheel set: these babies are keepers.
 
Update #9: May 11, 2008: Back In Black... And More On Wheels: The Calfee takes on a more stealthy look, an update on the Topolino's and a new set of old wheels: Rolfs Part Deux.
 
Update #10: May 27, 2008: Wheels, Rims, & Unexpected Consequences: Debbie's Calfee: We are so impressed with the Calfee tandem that a 3rd Calfee bike is added to the family livery, plus updates on wheels, creaks, and a short photo retrospective on US: 2008 compared to 1997.
 
Update #11: August 12, 2008: The Perfect Ride & The Penultimate Update: After about 8 months and a couple thousand miles of fine tuning, our Calfee Tetra Tandem is Perfect. This update includes a summary of the final adjustments made since May and will likely be the last update before our final, year-in-review over Christmas.
 
Final Wheel / Tandem Configurations & Build Sheet With Cost & Weight Data


 

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